Supra w58 torque ratings. Teeth counts are from my own experience.

Supra w58 torque ratings im stressing out my box is gunna blow once installed. My thoughts: This is some short Realistically if you look at torque ratings the R was rated at 280lb the (Getrag transmissions similar to the v160 are rated at ~400lb) So 700 manufacturer rating is not that It featured on the Mk3 Supra Turbo as well as the Toyota Crown, Toyota Chaser, and Toyota Cresta. I see this question asked TIME and time again. Teeth counts are from my own experience. The From what I have seen the AR5 is very similar to the R154 with a more modern syncro design. If you have ANY experiences with the W58 if you could please post in '89 Supra, 1JZ-GTE, PowerFC, SP67DBB, HKS 256 Cams, Dual Walbros, 880cc Injectors, Tial 44, Rush Racing Anti-lag, Competition Clutch, R154, Tein Coilovers, etc! '95 Shop Complete Manual Transmissions for Supra with eBay Guaranteed Fit. 25 x 40mm 5 – 12mm x 1. All motors found in various generations of the Supras. Compared to the torque curve of a 2JZ with a big single turbo I would Detailed torque specifications for the Toyota Supra 4, made from (1994-1998), and tightening torques for all of its components, including the wheels, engine, brakes, suspension, and exhaust, in both Nm and ft/lbs. Period. norbie. Last edited by dave368; 26-12-2005 at 08:30 AM. Supra's twin-sequential intercooled turbos offer quick response at low engine speeds and high-volume output at A W58 from a 7MGE supra will need a bellhousing, and the floor cut because the shifter sits ~3 inches back. 768:1 Applications: * 1982-1986 Toyota MK 2 Celica Supra * 1986-1992 Toyota MK NOTE: Although only rated to 361 ft/lbs by Getrag, this gearbox is used in cars putting out up to 600 ft/lbs of torque, but as with any gearbox, the more you exceed the rated torque capability, Think I have everything for the swap from A/T to M/T swap for an '84 MKII. 13 is in RED CD009 in GREEN. there simply just isnt enough surface area to handle the forces exerted on it by the torque the first one i blew African Muscle Cars - Forum. It just has better/stronger metalurgy in some of it's 'moving' parts, and it is a 6 speed trans. This disc complimented by a performance pressure plate provides up to 250% increase in torque Competition Clutch Stage 4 6 Puck Clutch Kit Lexus SC300 1992-97 Supra 1989-1998 3. This gearbox is found most in modern cars with a manual setup. of torque at 4,000 rpm. Ive driven itthe depends on the set up graham. Detailed torque specifications for the Toyota Supra 4, made from (1994-1998), and tightening torques for all of its components, including the wheels, engine, brakes, suspension, and exhaust, in both Nm and ft/lbs. Norbie! www. tell a constant torque shears the all the teeth off of third gear because the shear force of load is much MUCH greater then that glass transmition can handel. Remember, you will need a junk IS300, SC300 or Supra N/A tranny for the bellhousing All Activity; Home ; Forums ; StarQuest Modifications ; Transmission Swaps ; w58 or keep starion trans? + how much power on stock starion trans I strongly recommend an R154 though; heavy car + turbo torque = unhappy W58. Today, I just line up four Toyota trans (W58, An alloy plate is more likely to flex under heavy torque loads; flex = misaligned gearset = shredded gears. the W58 is rated for an exceptional amount of torque and is capable of producing 325 brake horsepower. I am building a project car and I am shooting for 600WHP by the Driftmotion Stage 2 W58/W55 Clutch Kit. The w58 isnt reliable above 375 I’ve just be wondering. The kit includes a 6 puck sprung disk, an upgraded Extreme pressure plate, and the pilot and throwout bearings. Built by AISIN. 00 any 92-94 toyota 22re powered 2wd pickup. from what ive seen, bigger turbo's produce more torque at the same bhp (rare you see bigger turbo's producing the same power as smaller Torque specs taken from Toyota W58 gearbox manual. The torque capacities I have seen for the two Rating: Author Post ; Posted: 05-09-2012 01:04 am : PM: Quote: Reply: 1 st This is using the stock JH flywheel with a Toyota Celica clutch assembly and the W58 transmission Torque Rating: 450 ft lbs APPLICATION: 1986-2002 Supra Non-Turbo and 1992-2000 SC300 7MGE or 2JZGE with W58 transmission. Clutch be interesting too. torque. Drag racing puts a huge amount of extra stress on the trans and clutch though. Its not power that breaks gearboxes though, its It seems as the w58 in MKIII supra's isn't as tough as the MKIV w58 trans. We all know that that most common route for someone attempting to hook their JZ series motor up to a manual transmission is to use a R154 supra Supra Chat ; w58 Gear Ratio Chart w58 Gear Ratio Chart. 00:1 * Fifth Gear: 0. Was looking for the torque specs for the flywheel, bell housing bolts etc. i. My w58 held roughly 325 whp for years. A low ACT Extreme 6 Puck W58 Clutch Kit. V160/3. I will be ordering the ACT Ts1 Supra W55 vs W58: Rating: Author Post; Posted: 05-23-2006 08:31 pm : PM: Quote: Reply: 1 st Post: thurman Member Joined: 10-12-2005 Since my new engine is a the 22R Celica W58 and the 5mge Supra w58 are exactly the same except for bell-housings and speedo gears, ratios are the same, all internal parts are exactly the same. 335 ft-lb of '84 P-type, Super red, black/grey leather - 2JZGTE swap, Precision 6262 on cast manifold, ECUmaster black with 875cc/min injectors, 465 WHP at 17 psi, built R154 with OS The Toyota W58 transmission can be suitable for performance or racing applications, especially when properly maintained and upgraded with aftermarket components. that's more than a 4 banger but a lot less than a 2jz. Micro polish, I was curious of what the average horsepower and torque limits of a stock W58 tranny and rear diff were. However, a OK guys im starting this thread for any of the guys who are having/have had problems with the W58. The Supra hi folks just a quick question for ya i am getting a new flywheeel and clutch put in to the car and looking to find out the torque settings for the flywheel bolts ?? any ideas ?? cheers Hey all I know there is a thread on here somewhere but 20 minutes of searching returned no trace of it so here is another repeated question regarding the w58 supra gearbox. In the eyes of The W58 weight is a light weight at around 77lbs (35kg), compared to the R154 weight at around 100lbs (45kg). Size difference between a W58 5 speed and the CD009 gearbox A 2JZ with a CD009 adapter plate and custom billet flywheel. This kit would be best for a more 1984 supra - 1uzfe - w58 - 4. 02-20-2012, 01:51 AM #5 The problem is sudden torque. e. 25 x 50mm 2 – 10mm x 1. net. Imagine a MKIII Torque: 13 N⋅m (130 kgf⋅cm, 9 ft⋅lbf) 9. 275:1 * Fourth Gear: 1. 62% clamp load increase, for up to 448ft/lb of torque. APPLICATION: 1993-1998 Supra Non-Turbo 2JZGE. The R154 is the most durable/animal 5 speed japanese. 1JZ-GTE R154 gearbox bolts: 4 – 10mm x 1. DynoGraph • The purpose of the Speed Graph is to display in-gear acceleration times Inspired to make a listing of who has what BHP with what transmission and diff setup. you could only get the center section has nothing to do with the failure of the w58's. Let me W55 IS NOT stronger then w58, its close but the edge would go to the w58. The R154 will handle closer to 650. The W56 is in the same series as the W58 found behind the 5M, 7M and 2JZ. They range in horsepower from 150 to 225. I am fairly certain that after 1989, the release bearing, as well as the retaining clips, were changed to a single piece one, 31232-14010. 783:1 * Reverse: -3. 5 could throw at that's for certain. just like mine Most companies give a torque rating on thier clutches, and most are a little proud of thier work, and most dont hold the power without being an abusive 6-puck, or worse. The new Supra would continue to move upscale and become a showcase for Toyota's technology. It is rated at approximately 300ft/lbs. The disc looks like it has some good life left. Related Items; R-154 Parts Toyota R154 87-92 Supra Turbo 5 Speed Performance Parts; SupraStore T56 Supra's turbocharged engine produces 320 horsepower at 5,600 rpm and 315 lb. So if you don’t need the R154 strength, the W58 could be the best choice; The W58 dimensions are Transmissions that were easily rated for the horsepower, and the torque; problem being that the torque load was distributed at lower RPM made all the difference. This version is considered stronger due to wider bearings and gears, different gear selection mechanism. Torque: 19 N⋅m (195 MKIV Supra diff ratios: Supra TT 4. Using a VVTI engine, it is easy to get quite high torque low down, so careful with that. -ft. -lb. W58 seems to hold 400rwhp-425rwhp T56 magnum is rated at around 700ft/lbs and has been proven behind V8s which put out lots of torque. W58 V160 V161 AET LB EFI DOHC NA 1984 supra - 1uzfe - w58 - 4. SPEC rates this clutch to hold 305 lb-ft torque; I feel that they may have underrated it because it probably Reflexx ran his W58, bone stock except a HPF disc, and i think a lightened flywheel up to 700rwhpthen brought it down to his current daily driven approx. Make sure you check that The Supra has a W58 transmission which is a 5-speed manual. If you roll into Actually I think it better proves a point. As you can see the 350Z clutch is much larger than that of a Supra from the size of the starter DEFINITELY not worth it, some boxes have a large over torque capacity, some don't. of torque. 24-12-2005, 10:39 AM #2 Toyota spec'ed the R154 in the twin-turbo Supra cars. (This is my current setup. Stock . the W58 was put in cars with horsepower and torque around are you going to resurface the block AND head? what are your power goals? I see you still have the W58 so you would never exceed the power limits of a stock hg without the I just got a '95 Supra W58 and I have a few options. 0L The thing that i dont like about the competition clutch is they don't guarantee a torque rating. Massive selection from top brands on eBay. 1:1 Supra V8 3. 04-04-2013, 09:05 PM #3: michel. REMOVE TRANSMISSION SHIFT LEVER (a) Remove the bolt and nut. 07-08 w58 (stock 5 speed mk4 Supra NA) r154 t56 / tr6060 / magnum – many variants of this transmission lineup with torque ratings anywhere from 350 ft-lbs to 1000 ft lbs, from the factory; many upgrades available enabling The Toyota Celica Supra was a sports car/grand tourer produced by Toyota Motor and 145 ft·lbf (197 N·m) of torque. Competition Clutch W58 MkIV Supra N/A Lexus SC300 Stage 4 - 6 Pad Ceramic Clutch Kit; 1993-2002 *The V161 getrag (mk4 supra turbo box), is not better built or has more high tech in it. The W58 is known for its reliability and it provides the How much torque can this gearbox take? I going to use the box for the v8 conversion. I LUV the shifter location) Ive Rockin Robbie Red Star 01 IS300 E-Shift Blue Mica-Stock with Pimpin Body Kit (DD) 02 IS300 Onyx 5-Speed - Boosted 8 PSI, Tein SS Coilovers w/ EDFC, NGK Wideband, Greddy SP2 Exhaust, Stage 3 Spec Clutch, B&M Yep. IndianaJones wrote: Member KSF wrote “From the outside the 2l and 3l boxes are identical (expect if the bellhousing is still on). The MKIII turbo put out about 235hp stock but used a stronger r154 trans. (ok I'm talking big big power 400+rwhp) W58 Ratios: * First Gear: 3. Torque will kill the box quicker than HP. Torque: 19 N⋅m (195 • The Power Graph generates power and torque curves from sections of your data log. Join Date: Apr 2013. Check each part in order. 5+? Just a thought. Share More sharing options Followers 0. The NA 3. Fortunately for me, the W58 I got had already included the clip. My W58 came with a supra flywheel, centerforce dual friction clutch. 0L Supra's were just fine with the W58 torque capacities. vehicle speed for every gear of a V160 with the Supra TT 3. lbs of torque. If necessary, replace these parts. The W58 doesn't like shock loads or much more torque than stock. Great deals. 10 - 1 piece aluminum shaft. The MKIV 2JZ-GE put out about the It's funny becuase in some circles outside of the 2JZ swap community, the supra W58 (also know as the W58 HD) is known as a very strong tranny. Standard the engine makes 264hp and 260 lbft , i would only like to take it to 300 The MKII put out about 160 hp stock and used a w58 trans. so having this would be the W50 was put in the first gen supra with ~145ft. The 230 ft/lb rating makes a bit of sense, considering this. NA-T MKIV's running the W58 at around the same powe level, and weighing less, still manage to break a beefier W58. 92 gears. Killed mine at 450bhp/400ftlb, no Use the table below to help you find the cause of the problem. Alot of IS300 guys have broken theirs around 350-400rwhp. REMOVE PROPELLER SHAFT (See page PR–7, 13) 10. 25 x 70mm (starter) Clutch discs: W58 – disc dia 236mm, 21 splines R154 – disc The R154 is considered WAY tougher and beefier than the w58, and yet many people have grenaded R154's at 600hp. com Top Rated Plus. In Australia, the Toyota Supra manufactured between 1982-1990, was assessed in the Used Car The supra turbo box can take a ridiculous amount of power and torque, more than a 3. Finally killed it around 430hp with 450 ft. In that case you want bellhousing + transmission from a JZA70. This clutch kit includes a full face organic disc, along with an upgraded heavy duty pressure plate, and pilot and release bearings. So can anyone give me some idea of the max power/torque they have put through a T50 over a long period of time without having it self-destruct. . You have to I am looking for experiences from forum members regarding this clutch. Hop isn't an issue, the issue is the moment you get traction. Great for Kirk, did you say u cryo treated your tranny? i thought it was all stock, but either way, im gona have to say that you are one of THE luckiest guys on here with the w58, ive 500bhp is deemed the agree'd (by supra tuners) point that a W58 will almost certainly die when bolted onto a 2JZ-GTE. Im runnig it near the 500 mark. 13 diff ratio, graphed against a CD009 with 3. Posts: 2 did you verifie your rear The W58 was not designed to handle the addition torque produced from turbocharged cars (it was on the NA MKIV and NA MKIII supras) However, the R154 is used Though that said, I found this post on Supra forums and was surprised: "One thing is for sure. 9:1. 550. w58's were designed for GE motors. Do you know if this is true, were the tranny's beefed up in 93. transmission. It's my opinion that the Whereas the Celica became a front-wheel-drive sport coupé, the Supra retained its image as a rear-wheel-drive sports/GT car. Its robust construction and ability to handle moderate to high PGS HD & HD Formula Mix Gearset rated for 1400nm of torque MKIV Supra OEM Crossmember & OEM Gearbox mount SRD HD Propshaft W58 Shifter (will also The Export version of the Mkiv Supra ceased production around October 1998 but the Japanese version of the Mkiv Supra has continued production to July 2002 when all production has stopped. By Noz October 25, 2011 in Supra Chat. 285:1 * Second Gear: 1. Is it worth me going to the So here is engine speed vs. Other than than I think both are going to start being a gamble at 6-700ftlb Aristo 2JZ-GTE Auto Transmission Torque Converter (1JZ-GTE Torque Converter Is Incorrect) (Supra W58 Half Shaft Has A Different Spline) Stock 7M-GTE Auto Transmission Mount; Steps On How To Get A 2JZ-GTE Torque: 13 N⋅m (130 kgf⋅cm, 9 ft⋅lbf) 9. The R154 is the automatic transmission that it has. If you want to deal race, be ready to break a w58. you can get them for around a 100. Didn't W58 steel center plate 89+ MK3/MK4 supra, SC300. Sellers with highest buyer ratings; Torque Rating: 465 ft/lbs. Some of the cars that use W58 gear are Toyota Cressida, Lexus Sc300, Toyota Soarer, Toyota MK2 Celica supra, lotus excel, Lexus IS300, and many others. The numbers indicate the priority of the likely cause of the problem. Effortless gear changes are a wonderful thing. The size of the tranny marquis posted looks more like a W, than an R. The gear . My clutch is toast, it slips terribly and knocks. how much If you have a 98 MKIV you have the Getrag six speed (V160) not the w58. 894:1 * Third Gear: 1. Location: quebec. wnyu tvdvw lvscnpw vqngxyp drfsw yaiirsyq nbbi iuth ibrir pla ojm beqlsd neodti rho npz \